lostinmyway: (True!Grune: Awakened.)
Grune ([personal profile] lostinmyway) wrote in [community profile] lucetiooc2012-03-10 07:47 pm
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In which Vyc finally does something

Hello again, everyone! I'm back with another player plot. Those of you who have been around for a while may have noticed that this is the one I've been building up to for, like, forever. So here's a super-short summary of the way it's going to run:

On March 15, Grune will be mallynapped. This will last until early in the morning on March 18.

From March 18 to no later than March 31, she will have her memories back. All of them.

This is where it gets interesting.

For anyone who doesn't want to be spoiled for the ending of Tales of Legendia, please go here now. For everyone else, I have two explanations as to what Grune with her memories back is going to entail: the pseudo-short one and the really, really long one.

One of the nice and yet frustrating things about Tales of Legendia is the way it lets you draw your own conclusions. It's possible for two fans of the games to take the exact same facts and arrive at very different conclusions (which has happened on one or two occasions with me). So, this is my interpretation--other peoples' mileage may vary.

With that said, as I mentioned back when Schwartz turned up for the fourth wall event, though everyone assumes Grune is an Orerines (AKA human), she's actually a goddess--or rather, that's the term that's used on Melfes (AKA "Shining Blue," the planet Legendia takes place on). What her true species is isn't given; Grune only says when Norma asks if Schwartz is a goddess, "That is what you would call her in your language." What's true for Schwartz is typically true for Grune; since Grune significantly downplays her abilities to avoid scaring her friends, you have to read through the lines a fair bit to get information about her.

To get an important question out of the way early: Why has Grune been such a . . . non-goddessy sort in Luceti? Well, apparently, it may have been a mistake for Schwartz and Grune to come to the world of Melfes. The summon spirit Rem, one of Grune's partners in her fight against Schwartz, says at one point, "Your memory and your power have been sealed. It must have been an unavoidable decision, considering how far this land is from maturity." It seems Melfes wasn't strong enough to support both her and Schwartz, and so she came to the world knowing only her name and one basic spell. She forgot her purpose and her reason for being. Her personality, too, as everyone might have guessed, was greatly altered. However, every once in a while on Melfes, little things slipped through--which some characters in Luceti have also experienced for themselves.

Something important to remember that I mentioned when Schwartz turned up is Grune and Schwartz together make up one being. They aren't complete on their own--you could think of each one as being half a soul, with each half residing in a separate body, because they are so in opposition they could not physically remain together. Grune would explain it as a more extreme version of what most beings already have: a light and a dark half, both equally necessary for one to be a balanced person.

Their reason for being is extremely defined. As Grune says, "To me, my existence and my objective are one and the same." Both of them exist to answer the prayers of one person or many people who are searching for an end to suffering. These prayers can come from a person or nation or oppressed group, or even a deity. On Melfes, it was the native deity Nerifes who prayed for an end to the suffering of its people, the Ferines (in Luceti, Walter, Fenimore, Stella while she was here, and Stella's daughter Sophie). In other words, Grune and Schwartz are the deities that answer the prayers of other deities.

However, "[t]here is more than one way to free people from their suffering." As far as I can determine, typically, Schwartz will answer the prayer first. She believes that existing with emotions is what causes suffering, and so to save a world from its pain, Schwartz's goal is to make it so that the world never existed. Grune's purpose is to act against her and stop her, thereby preserving the world in question.

When both of them "descend" to the world that has called them, Schwartz causes pain to strengthen herself--she feeds off the negative emotions of people. Grune brings hope and attempts to resolve the world's conflict--she's strengthened by positive emotions. In the end, with the strength of the world's people fuelling them, Grune and Schwartz fight. Whoever is the victor determines the fate of the world. If Grune wins, the world is saved and she and Schwartz fade from it. If Schwartz wins, she returns it to nothingness; there will never have been that world in all of existence.

It's not stated outright how long Grune and Schwartz have existed. Schwartz says they've "chosen this path countless times before." I'm interpreting it as, so long as there has been sentient life in the universe to struggle and suffer, both of them have gone through this cycle of birth, death, and rebirth. As for who wins the most out of the two--well, it's implied that it isn't necessarily Grune.

So, what is Grune like with her memories back?

Well, she's serious and driven, sharply intelligent and dignified. She won't be satisfied with simply accepting her situation, but will be seeking out anyone and everyone with information on the Malnosso and the barrier. Her voice will also be different, and not just in terms of her vocabulary and manner of speaking. This is normally how she sounds. This is how she sounds immediately after "awakening." This is what she sounds like in battle. I mentally headcanon her speaking voice when she has her memories to be somewhere between the latter two videos, to give everyone an idea--like this.

But yes. In short, she's going to be extremely different.

HOWEVER--this is the important part. In 99% of cases, her feelings for your character will not significantly change. If Grune without her memories considered your character a friend, so will she now. The exceptions to this will be: First, Grell, because Grune once witnessed her being her villainy self without being able to understand what it meant. Now, however, she will, and she will not be pleased. (Although there will be more than a few complications there, given she'll also have her other, positive memories of their odd sort of friendship.) Second, Mithos, because the first time they met, he tried to kill her. :| And third, Dhaos, because another one of the things Grune will be getting back? Will be her complete understanding of romantic love . . . and her sexuality. /cough

Those exceptions aside, in general, Grune will still care for your character every bit as much as when she didn't have her memories--it doesn't matter whether you're a king or a Japanese schoolgirl. Or a king who might dress as a Japanese schoolgirl. However, she will also understand a great deal more about them. All those chance comments you expected to go over her head when she didn't have her memories? Will have been retained, analyzed, and will have had further information extrapolated from them. These things will be also taken into account when it comes to her dealings with your character during this period, both involving things that are serious (such as Giles' thinly disguised stories of Sunnydale, which will have ramifications for everyone from there) and things that are...not so serious (such as the kiss on the mouth Lupin gave her under the mistletoe at the Christmas ball).

In addition, your character's behaviour during this period may well result in a change in how she sees them for as long as she has her memories (but not when she goes back to "normal"). Fair warning.

Finally, while Grune's feelings for your character will not change when she regains her memories (unless you're one of the exceptions), the way she expresses them certainly will. With her memories, Grune will be far more reserved and guarded--oddly enough, especially with her closest friends. After seeing the reactions of her housemates, she won't want to frighten her other friends with what she's become, and so she's likely to at least initially avoid anyone she considers a friend. Perfect strangers, you're the ones who are more likely to see Grune this week-ish, unless her friends make an effort to seek her out and talk to her. (And I'll attempt to provide as many occasions for this as I can.)

I've put together a fairly exhaustive list of videos for reference; for more information about how Grune recovering her memories plays out in the game, go here and scroll down to "Grune's Quest" (or the ending of Jay's Quest if you want to see Schwartz in action). I've bolded the most important ones, but if you're going to see just one, I would highly recommend this one:

Grune, surely you can see the hopeless difference in power between us?/Do I appear strange to you?/I don't think I can just run up to her and hug her anymore. (2:57)

In just under 3 minutes, it encompasses how Grune and Schwartz interact, Grune's confusion at the way her friends are scared of her now (especially her best friend, Norma), and how everyone reacts to the huge change in her behaviour.

At the end of the week or two I'll have her with her memories, Grune will go back to her amnesiac state. She won't remember a thing about that time; all she'll notice is how inexplicably awkward everyone is being and that a week seems to have disappeared on her somewhere. Even if your character and Grune with her memories ended up in conflict, she won't remember it and will treat them as she always has. And that will be that.

...Until the next time I decide to do this. Once it happens once, it makes it all that much easier to occur another time.

Phew! Thank you for reading all that. Questions can go below. If you'd like to know in advance what Grune will think of your character when she has her memory back, or you'd like to plot out something specific, comment away! ♥

EDIT: Something I probably should have made clearer: While Grune will definitely need people being calm and accepting of her for purposes of support, that doesn't mean I'm not interested in playing out any conflict that might come up due to this being such a huge change. So please don't be shy, all right? ♥
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[personal profile] redjacketthief 2012-03-11 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
You know? I've been looking forward to you making this move. Grune really does have the potential to really throw my guy here off his game, because all of this literal magic is a little beyond his grasp or even care.

...btw, don't think he has't been paying a little attention to Grune. He will approach if he notices something off, if only out of curiosity.

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[personal profile] shadedsunlight 2012-03-11 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Ginia comes back in time to see Grune kidnapped! Awesome!

Anything I should know about how she'll interact around Ginia or Alice?

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[personal profile] goldenglasses 2012-03-11 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
8D Don't worry! Vash will like you powers and memory or no powers and memory!

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semper_cogitans: (-w-)

[personal profile] semper_cogitans 2012-03-11 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
This is a beautiful plot and you should feel beautiful.

... I love how Robert is looking forward to this and Kazooie is not...

Will Grune be straightforward about what has happened, if she's asked? Because Robert, of course, will ask. o/`

... And will Grune suddenly be able to realize Robert's various... issues? 8'D (Or Kazooie's, for that matter...)

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i_am_not_cute: ((manga) and now you die)

[personal profile] i_am_not_cute 2012-03-11 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
/flops all over this post

/has nothing else coherent to say

/should probably go get some rest
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[personal profile] northeasternwind 2012-03-11 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
Geez, Vyc, I leave for like how long and you're kidnapping Dhaos's girlfriend, what am I going to do with you. I just can't leave you people alone.

Since I kinda sorta missed Dhaos' Arrival Anniversary today, I believe I have some of my events sorted out. Dhaos will have been all mopey until Grune gets kidnapped, at which point he shall go into IT CAN'T BEEEE mode and be all frantic and stuff and realize everything and blah blah blah tidal wave, providing me with plenty of time to make a triumphant return like I've been promising for ages now, and the moment he feels her mana signature return he shall attempt to make THE STRAIGHTEST OF BEELINES to see her.

This may, however, be inconvenient in regards to your plans, and I am totally up for coming up with excuses to delay if necessary. 8D

Also he shall be the saddest of demon kings when she starts avoiding him, he didn't mean to cheat on you he swears.

...So! Anything I don't already know that I probably should? XD Or even stuff I do already know, because my memory has proven to be most unreliable even at the best of times.

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[personal profile] mistlegacy 2012-03-11 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
I have nothing specific in mind for plans, but I still can't wait to have Rydia meet Grune while she's like this!

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[personal profile] blessedbyfarore 2012-03-11 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
Oh this is gonna be fun... <3

Link will be... probably a bit flaily at first ("Holy shit, my big sister is a Goddess! o.O"), but she's still... Grune, so he'll get over it fast XD

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bubblywishes: (Don't make me eat what Hattie makes...)

[personal profile] bubblywishes 2012-03-11 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
G-Girl.... ;__;
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[personal profile] imatreenow 2012-03-11 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
Mithos didn't want to be friends with her anyway!! >8(!!

But my interest is piqued; I'm eager to see how Grune changes.
dragoon_pride: (wait what!?)

[personal profile] dragoon_pride 2012-03-11 09:33 am (UTC)(link)
I look forward to how she'll deal with Vincent and Kain! XD

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[personal profile] unseenspy 2012-03-11 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay...perhaps I missed it in the tl;dr, and my reading comprehension is failing me right now...

But what exactly is Grune going to do when she has her memories? Is Schwartz still around?

And Jay will remember how she was with her memories, so he won't quite freak out so much...or maybe he will if Schwartz does return.
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[personal profile] vibrafinal 2012-03-11 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Finallly, Cecil's ability to get along with people of all ages and personalities will come in handy!

...He might worry about her being brainwashed first, though.

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[personal profile] occults 2012-03-11 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
This will be so fun for Helios I KNOW IT! I look forward to these two interacting for sure.

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[personal profile] blessingone 2012-03-11 06:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Fenimore maaaaay eventually awkwardly attempt to act like she is okay with her friend suddenly being a completely different person and also maybe a goddess (if that does come up), but she'll generally have the standard reaction of awkward not-really-accepting.
Edited 2012-03-11 18:55 (UTC)

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[personal profile] flowermemory 2012-03-11 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
haha Senri will know she is acting a bit different because they are probably flower buddies and he see's her often enough to know what she's normally like. And he will be slightly dumbfounded for a sec ... but only for a sec for he is Senri and is the epitome of living in the moment.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY DOES THIS MEAN [GASP] THEY WILL HAVE A THREAD WITHOUT A CUDDLEPUDDLE INVOLVED? OR WILL GRUNE WITH HER MEMORIES STILL END UP HUGGING HIM. SENRI IS VERY HUG-ABLE, AFTER ALL.
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[personal profile] subsultive 2012-03-12 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
BUT SHE SAID SHE'D GIVE HIM ALL THE HUGS

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[personal profile] starfishlovesyou 2012-03-12 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
You'll still feel the same about the starfish with your memories back and all that right Grune?! Don't do this to Fuuko, she won't be able to cope without one of her biggest supporters!!

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death_awaits_you: (oh hey!)

[personal profile] death_awaits_you 2012-03-15 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
Aww Grune. :C


..... Ryoji is kind of a derp, so he'll probably act exactly the same way towards her. /o\ But I think it's really cool that you've been building up to this and are doing things and -- yes. Sorry - sleepy now and trying to catch up on all I missed, but -- I look forward to seeing this!

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